Other poster: I think the real reason the shows of today that are game show and people don't think they are is because the shows are filled with far lesser amounts of game play and a bunch of DRAMA, commercials and other nonsense.
The "nonsense" can be a show's main attraction. Almost every game show fan wants to consider You Bet Your Life a game show, because almost every game show fan wants to get a great talent like Groucho into our little genre.
But Groucho's show, of course, wasn't really much of a game show at all. The actual quizzer only occupied a few minutes and was of very secondary importance. The show was mainly a comedy/interview vehicle for Groucho. To be blunt, lots of those scorned "reality" shows devote far more time to genuine competition than Groucho's show ever did. Something like High Stakes Poker, widely reviled on this board, was virtually all gameplay, especially compared to Groucho's show.
I used to be interested in this what-is-a-game-show? stuff. Now I don't much care. As The Kid said, the discussion has mostly become a stick to beat whatever show a writer doesn't like.
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